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  1. thank u for the effort. i've read this in lynne's book. i too was looking more for a reputable source like her dr (which isnt gonna happen), not a stage mom who has used her daughter since day 1. that's why i mentioned in a previous post to you that this information is typically confidential in a court of law and also mentioned that lynne's word really amounts to nothing, so i thought you may have confused it with tabloid sh.it bc it's easy to do when that's essentially what lynne is, which i see you are aware of too, given by how you say that there was no point in lutfi grinding up those meds into britney's food bc they don't have the desirable affects. maybe he did do it and was just unaware/uneducated though, or maybe it didnt happen at all, no idea unless an allegation is being thrown around (for example a family member such as lynne accusing another person of drugging britney) these things are seldom revealed to the public via psychiatrists mouths especially (unless of course their patient dies under suspicious medical circumstances regarding their medication, for example mj) we established in this thread too that since it says in the court documents (1169-1170) that sam was the one creating such networks and handling britney's affairs (they specifically say "rehabilitation" and "prescription medication" and that he tried to coax her into seeing a psych 2 days before her 5150 but was unsuccessful) and that her actual medical condition whatever it may be has been determined as an "undisclosed illness that will never be revealed to the public". so we cannot take the word of lynne, because britney may have been misdiagnosed by a crummy dr (especially considering lutfi was the one administering those proceedings) plus these allegations were tossed out in court in late 2012 too, and as we know just a couple yrs ago britney paid sam in the low 6 figures in order to settle the defamation case. there is one thing adnan and lynne do agree on tho, which is interesting to this ordeal, is that britney was popping sam's adderall pills. lynne says she found out when britney checked into UCLA. sam says he has an rx for adderall due to his ADD. i do believe britney was abusing those pills, willingly or not who knows, certainly no one on this forum, but how else would lynne and adnan possibly know to namedrop adderall. they don't have the friendliest relations so it isn't like it would be brought up in trivial convo and i doubt it is guess work either. the adderall makes even further sense when we see that britney tested positive for amphetamine in november 07 that being said, if britney did take risperdal and seroquel, it does not confirm a mental illness in relation to those drugs (though another mental illness could be present of course, i don't deny that, i just deny knowing WHAT exactly it COULD be bc in reality no one on this forum will know unless britney outright discloses something herself), nor does it refute a mental illness in relation to those drugs either. we don't know how good the dr was (esp since sam allocated people in that field) plus she was seeing a parental therapist on top of that as a part of rectifying her custodial issues, we don't know if britney purposely lied/was not sincere about any detrimental info to the dr (which she has a tendency of doing publicly, we have caught her out many times) since it's been said she didn't want to see drs at the time and her lack of fu.cks in general at that time too, we don't know whether she was under the influence of something that would affect her behavior while being treated (britney missed 8 out of 14 drug tests so it was clear she was hiding something that she should not have been taking on her own accord) there are many elements that come into play. overall i do think britney suffers from anxiety, not because i personally speculate (i dont have a view on what she has, whether it's bipolar etc), but because she has spoken about anxiety herself in interviews. whether that means she suffers from it or simply feels anxious some days i don't know, but it's the closest anyone outside of her cadre has ever gotten (because it's simply not our business to know). i do not think it is "obviously nearly crippling" as u say, and it goes without saying you are entitled to make such speculations, but i don't believe there is anything obvious about that, for the reasons i have stated previously in this thread to you. overall we don't know her at all, its "determined" by fans studying some frames accumulated over the years and the word of a stage mother whose allegations were thrown out of court in 2012 and the rest of the defamation case paid off by britney in 2016. which i find strange since this has been ongoing since 2008, why did they suddenly decide to pay him off after so many years of such a well.. vacillating case strange just because somebody is "diagnosed" does not mean that diagnosis is correct (and again, especially since it was under a dr that was assigned by lutfi, it is easy to corrupt people like that, lutfi had the means to do it) i mean, take for example fran drescher, she was misdiagnosed by 8 different doctors until she FINALLY found out she had uterine cancer! so if a team of "professionals" can f**k that up, then imagine how an otherwise honest practitioner can f**k up something that can be perceived as precarious as a mental illness. then imagine how a dr who doesnt abide by hippocratic oath could be influenced too. i actually read that experts estimate that misdiagnosis account for approximately 40% rates. that's scary. there's just so many factors that take place, as you know, so it is impossible to go there because we really don't know every detail when it comes to every cook in the kitchen, so to speak. and oh, i know, i understand what you're saying, i am not claiming that lutfi could have done something along those lines to make britney feel drugged out (as u say it's highly unlikely to use those meds to achieve that) but it's entirely possible he did that to convince her she is sick, especially since we know he was trying to coax her into seeing therapists under his approval etc (self admitted). lynne (if we go by lynne's word) also claims lutfi used to play a lot of mind games with britney in order to gain authority. so that is entirely a possibility too. personally i think both are leeches and thanks again for the effort too i appreciate it!
  2. n0 pr0blem, thank u for clearing that up
  3. yes anytime sunshine appreciate it t00
  4. well i never used it as leverage that it makes him guilty, it just makes him highly suspicious. i dont need to use the denial of polygraph as evidence against him, bc there is already far stronger evidence as previously stated in this thread wait, so are u saying i have no basic understanding of forensic science? bc i believe he should have taken one and i have fine understanding of forensic science. i may not have a degree in it, but im not an idiot when it comes to that either surprisingly. there's nothing to lose by mj taking it anyway. why? bc in his state it's only admissible if ruled by a judge, but it wasnt, it was an editorial director. he had absolutely nothing to lose when it comes to legalities.
  5. ur welcome, people will teach what is convenient for them i guess there have been many success rates with polygraphs, so i dont rule them out completely either, plus jacko is not a trained cia operative. though ofc they are not 100% foolproof, i never said they were so was puzzled why u disagreed really. but i mean if the police werent negligent when it came to the green river killers polygraph, it would've saved lives because his polygraph was indeed not a pass. but what is true however is the stockpiles of evidence we have mentioned in this thread about jacko especially compared to lukes case bc for kesha we can only say "well... he was mean to some random fatties!"
  6. kelly clarkson was only mad bc she lost millions after dropping a cowriting cred with luke what does her heffer ass have to do with a rape case
  7. but what is there to disagree on? i even said they are admissible in some states, not all, so obviously i am aware they are not the most palatable things known to mankind btw about the green river killer that's actually wrong, the fbi later determined that he indeed failed his polygraph test
  8. a "killerRRrrrrr...RRR..rr..r...." as in.... "f**king hilarious" yes indeed
  9. i remember when everyone here bashed ppl for thinking that was going to be legitimate choreography "she's just having fun and freestyling omg!!! it's not going to be in the show guys"
  10. but there was a multitude of statements from victims regarding mj too. lots more ACTUAL proof that i have previously stated in this thread too than just some females complaining about how mean dr luke was to them too. just bc dr luke was mean to some girls doesnt mean he raped someone there's no proof apart from that. plenty of leverage for mj tho. and indeed wacko jacko is a very accurate name
  11. and he refused to go through a lie detector and while they are not admissible in every state, why was he so nervous to do it? he said he'd do anything to clear his name. that would at least help by agreeing to it, why not do it? anything to clear his name = pay over 20mil in out of court settlements. it's more than "chances" at this point @LostInAnImage
  12. btw, don't forget to mention that michael reached out of court settlements too. he would say in interviews he will clear his name, yet he resorts to out of court settlements (over 20 million dollars worth in fact)
  13. it certainly is not! correct! bc lawfully being found not guilty does not mean you are innocent. there is a clear distinction between the two in fact. in the u.s they find defendants not guilty meaning not enough beyond reasonable doubt evidence to convict u. ur guilt couldnt be proven, nor could your innocence. thankfully he was never found innocent, because evidence points the other way. it's strange to me how kesha fans can believe every word that vomits from her mouth and ruin dr lukes career but michael jackson is commemorated just bc he made some great songs. dont understand. i guess its convenient when its a singer people like, rather than a behind the scenes music producer.
  14. that's the way it goes call her a sh!t performer and a shadow of her former self and the "HER JOKER LIPZ...." brigade sound off the alarm.
  15. yes not rly sure how the kesha fans on here can be so positive about dr luke without a thimble of proof but they take their chances with michael
  16. page 26! the age britney was when her career died.
  17. no, i just mean it's obvious to everyone that britney is crippling with laziness
  18. u rip her to shreds over her face anyways, i fail to see how you can talk a h a h H A H a
  19. because she doesnt want to do this "complex" choreography every other night. far easier to just say f**k all my stupid fans and do the missy elliott dance break. this is damage control after migos & the shade room dragged her through the mud then again u are a naive fucktard so.
  20. oh i see @billyjb26 downvoted u for this comment it's funny because he never shuts up about britney's face but if u call her lazy then he rages
  21. it's in the cases court documents which were filed and confirmed by a professional investigator who has been in the industry for 50 years and investigated over 4000 pedophilia/child sex cases. the dark blemish & its location was an accurate description of michael's penis & it wasnt a mark u could see unless you were up close. lmfao yes, now THAT one is obvious to anyone. @LostInAnImage
  22. "hey its michael jackson and ur all ignorant. this kid described a unique mark on my d!ck accurately but im a good person"