music Rebellion's producer

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It's confirmed Rebellion's final version was indeed produced by Scott Storch. It's a remix more hiphopney but unfortunately he lost the file. So the only one known to still have it is Sam. 

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What kind of producer “loses” songs?  they’re supposed to back all that **** up. For every song

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31 minutes ago, BringTheAction said:

What kind of producer “loses” songs?  they’re supposed to back all that **** up. For every song

I thought the same but that's what he says. It's the first time he acknowledges having worked on the song.

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33 minutes ago, BringTheAction said:

What kind of producer “loses” songs?  they’re supposed to back all that **** up. For every song

A lot of producers... Damaged disks or accidentaly deleted are the most common mistakes

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Wasn’t there a blind item about scott storch, Britney and Hayden panettiere recently but about 2006-7

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49 minutes ago, chizwhiz said:

Wasn’t there a blind item about scott storch, Britney and Hayden panettiere recently but about 2006-7

....huh? 

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1 hour ago, BringTheAction said:

What kind of producer “loses” songs?  they’re supposed to back all that **** up. For every song

i mean it happens. there's that whole lawsuit with universal music for losing the masters for their artists

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1 hour ago, chizwhiz said:

Wasn’t there a blind item about scott storch, Britney and Hayden panettiere recently but about 2006-7

What? I wanna know

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Sure, I can believe this. I love putting my trust in newbie strangers on the Internet.   

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I don't know about your info saying he lost the file, but, in case he said it, he lied and try avoid a lawsuit. We know how much Team Britney try to keep especially that song in secret. And Sam is not the only one, Jeff D and Notes' family too.

Sony Music probably has the master of the song with everything about the recording including remixes, all the record labels save all about their artists. Actually that's what Universal Music lost during a fire in 2008.

Also, i love how everyone thought Rebellion was about the illuminati (fake conspiracy theory) and all  was about her family and her team. We were blind.

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2 hours ago, CripplerCrossface said:

I don't know about your info saying he lost the file, but, in case he said it, he lied and try avoid a lawsuit. We know how much Team Britney try to keep especially that song in secret. And Sam is not the only one, Jeff D and Notes' family too.

Sony Music probably has the master of the song with everything about the recording including remixes, all the record labels save all about their artists. Actually that's what Universal Music lost during a fire in 2008.

Also, i love how everyone thought Rebellion was about the illuminati (fake conspiracy theory) and all  was about her family and her team. We were blind.

That's right, it was about her family and especially Larry, obvious she was going to expose him though the album, so he destroyed all that material , not because it was bad or the album couldn't work commercially and that's why when asked him about all this he said the theory was absurd.

Jeff also confirmed the illuminati theory this means two things:

A)That he was diverting the subject because it suited him.

B)That he heard something thanks to his work with Notes and add the theories of the fans.

I think that in a Tumblr blog on a fan page there was a comment where it said thought a source that a former Jive worker between 2001 and 2009 that Rebellion(Ain't selling my soul) was the first single The Original Doll and the track was created in May of 2004.I believe, neither Jeff D. nor C.Notes nor Scott Scorch produced the song.I think Britney reused that track at that time and was remixed by C.Notes.

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I've always been told/believed that the full version doesn't exist, but this is interesting. Thanks for posting  

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I believe Scott Storch is the same guy who produced some tracks for Paris Hilton's debut album ("Turn It Up", for example).

So, that would mean "Rebellion" is a hip hop and R&B bop that got away. A "My Prerogative" 2.0, or a more In The Zone-like and mature version of "Overprotected".

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3 hours ago, femmefataledoll said:

I've always been told/believed that the full version doesn't exist, but this is interesting. Thanks for posting  

it does exist. britney herself was playing it in her car back in early 2007

and I do believe that Sam has it for sure.

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12 hours ago, MakeMeFweaky said:

i mean it happens. there's that whole lawsuit with universal music for losing the masters for their artists

Wasn’t a bunch of music lost in that fire in 2008? At the time no one thought much music was affected but a report came out earlier this year saying a lot of the masters for several artists got destroyed.

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5 hours ago, femmefataledoll said:

I've always been told/believed that the full version doesn't exist, but this is interesting. Thanks for posting  

It was confirmed to exist.

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7 hours ago, Winter _90 said:

That's right, it was about her family and especially Larry, obvious she was going to expose him though the album, so he destroyed all that material , not because it was bad or the album couldn't work commercially and that's why when asked him about all this he said the theory was absurd.

Jeff also confirmed the illuminati theory this means two things:

A)That he was diverting the subject because it suited him.

B)That he heard something thanks to his work with Notes and add the theories of the fans.

I think that in a Tumblr blog on a fan page there was a comment where it said thought a source that a former Jive worker between 2001 and 2009 that Rebellion(Ain't selling my soul) was the first single The Original Doll and the track was created in May of 2004.I believe, neither Jeff D. nor C.Notes nor Scott Scorch produced the song.I think Britney reused that track at that time and was remixed by C.Notes.

I don’t believe it was for Original Doll. We only know Mona Lisa from that album. Britney posted the snippet of Rebellion on her website in 2006 so I always assumed it was from then?

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1 hour ago, Shadow2003 said:

I believe Scott Storch is the same guy who produced some tracks for Paris Hilton's debut album ("Turn It Up", for example).

So, that would mean "Rebellion" is a hip hop and R&B bop that got away. A "My Prerogative" 2.0, or a more In The Zone-like and mature version of "Overprotected".

yup, my first thoughts too: "oh hey, isn't that the guy who was all over Paris' album"?! that's so interesting.. 

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27 minutes ago, Isla said:

I don’t believe it was for Original Doll. We only know Mona Lisa from that album. Britney posted the snippet of Rebellion on her website in 2006 so I always assumed it was from then?

I know but maybe she did it because as always they did not allow her creative control and she was angry.This is Tumblr's post.

Here is the cover art and the true story about “Rebellion” that is being hidden. Emailed to me by a close friend who worked with Jive Records from 2001-2009:

“Rebellion” or “Rebellion (Ain’t Selling My Soul)” was to be the first single off “The Original Doll”. It was originally created May 2004, without Britney getting permission from her record label.

Britney planned to release TOD March 20, 2005- planning to rid off all her past. And after her injury, she was secretly working more on it in the studio. She wanted Kevin to be on the record, although no song was written for the two of them. She also was trying to get Michael Jackson to be on the record, and wanted him to produce a track or two, too.

Word is that she also wanted Janet Jackson to be on a song she was working on which she called “My Body”, although it wasn’t finished and was barely recorded. The song was to be a response to the media for what happened to both Britney and Janet, with the media finding out that Britney wasn’t a virgin and the Super Bowl incident with Janet. She wanted to let the ? know that only she owned her body, as Janet owned hers, and only they could judge themselves. This was something she wanted to do on “In The Zone”, however, her label kept discouraging her. However, the Janet incident at the Super Bowl sparked back her old feelings and she wanted them to work together on this song- to shut the media up.

She wanted this album to have more of an urban feel, which possibly explains why she took the direction she did with “Blackout”.

The second single was to be an unknown song- one that has not been discovered yet. 
“Red Wrapped Around My..” was the second single and it was both written and produced by Britney and an unknown producer. The song was about Britney’s newfound faith in herself and the Kabbalah and was a Madonna influenced track.

Another song, whether Britney wanted to use it as a single or not is unknown, is called “Not A Sinner”. You can hear it’s first original ? steps in “Am I A Sinner?”, however it has a much more mature sound and it has more of an urban feel. 
The person that wrote to me heard the song and says it opens with a double bass-like intro. The song is meant to sound like a tease. Although the person forgot most of the lyrics, they remember that the chorus exactly and it goes like this: 
“I’m not a sinner 
Well, could you blame me?
I’m not wrong
And if I am, would you try to understand? 
Is it immoral? Calling me a ***** or..?
I’m not your woman scorned
I’m not a sinner
Can’t tell me I’m wrong
We’re of the same skin, same cloth
So if I’m a sinner then you have been one all along”

Another line was “You can judge me by what you think I do in the streets / Look in the mirror, and look at yourself because you’re the one doing that ? in your sheets” which was in the bridge.

“Not A Sinner” was meant to address the public on the harsh criticism towards Britney. She wanted to let them know that she was happy with who she was and that they could not judge her for being honest.

Of course, Britney planned on conceiving a ? with Kevin in October after they wed, so she decided to push back the album to release the first single Easter 2006. She wanted to make the media ?.

The source, who wishes to remain anonymous, commented that this album, “The Original Doll” was (in their words) “truly supposed to be Britney’s“Ray Of Light” but with more edge, aggression and attitude and a bit less spirituality. It was definitely Britney’s way of owning her new assertive self.”

However, Britney’s label was very ? that she was planning much ahead without them and they wanted her to do what they wanted. They felt it was a bit too forceful and were ? that Britney did not discuss a single thing with them. The source commented that “they didn’t want her feeling too confident. It was sort of like a fear of losing control over a huge investment and they didn’t want her to feel confident enough to leave. They knew if she left, they would lose a huge source of income. Britney was making it huge obviously and they wanted a piece of what she had. They thought if they let her go through with this and if it became successful, she’d feel like like she wouldn’t need anyone and would feel that she didn’t need to adhere to their needs because she could do without them. They wanted her to be totally dependent on their team…”

In other words, they didn’t want her to get personal with her ? unless they had some say in it in fear of losing control. It has nothing to do with timing and whatnot, but literally everything to do with control.

Supposedly, she also had a message about Hollywood. But that’s all I was told. It all ended up being scrapped after they threatened her. The fact that she gave up pushing the album probably was influenced by issues in her family, including with Kevin, and the media’s harsh scrutiny which slowly drove her off the edge. Little by little the album was scrapped and it was all gone by November 2005. “Mona Lisa” was definitely supposed to be on the album, although she was really working on “Rebellion” more than anyone thinks.