She’s the Ethan Hunt of music.

Taylor Swift is basically the Ethan Hunt of music.

Can you remember the last time a song from the 1989 singer leaked ahead of schedule? Me neither. It’s because she goes through great lengths to protect her music. Swift’s BFF Ed Sheeran explains she won’t send songs to producers or collaborators via the web. Instead, she hires people to fly around the world with the song stored on an iPad and secured in a locked brief case. Slay a bit!

“She would never send new songs, no,” Ed said in a new interview. “I hear them but it has to be with her.”

But if he’s unable to be with her, things get interesting. “I remember when I did a song with her for her album, I was in San Francisco, and they sent someone with a locked briefcase with an iPad and one song on it, and they flew to San Francisco, and played the song I’ve done with her,” he recalled. “And they asked if I like it and I was like, ‘Yeah,’ and then they took it back, that’s how I hear it.”

Sheeran also recently revealed Tay Tay’s X Factor: being unpopular.

“There’s an underdog element to it,” he explained. “Taylor was never the popular kid in school. I was never the popular kid in school. Then you get to the point when you become the most popular kid in school—and we both take it a bit too far.”

He added, “She wants to be the biggest female artist in the world and I want to be the biggest male artist in the world. It also comes from always being told that you can’t do something and being like, ‘F–k you. I can.'”

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