Diplo talks a big game, but he can back it up too.

Diplo Talks Justin Bieber, Madonna & Being Dissing Taylor Swift

Diplo is on top of the world right now.

He’s currently enjoying the success from his Skrillex collaboration with Jack Ü on Where Are Ü Now featuring Justin Bieber and “Lean On,” his joint effort with Jillionaire and Walshy Fire under the guise Major Lazer. He also produced much of Madonna’s latest “Rebel Heart” record and even makes a brief in-person cameo in her recent “***** I’m Madonna” music video.

Diplo chatted with Rolling Stone about some of pop’s biggest names, including Taylor Swift (re: asking fans to create a Kickstarter to get her a booty), the Biebs, Madonna and the pressure she faces to stay “young” and why he’s a punk on social media.

If Justin Bieber is cool again:
He’d been stuck in a rut where he has to do a certain thing because of his fan base. Guy from Disclosure texted me, “Yo, man, that Bieber record is amazing,” and I’m like, “Man, you would’ve never written that a year ago,” and he’s like, “I know, this is very difficult for me to text right now.” Bieber’s personal life is whatever it is — he’s a rich kid and he’s pretty much gonna have to be a jerk. But he’s respectful to me, and he has that weird gene where he’s good at everything: better at basketball than me, better at drums. For us it’s more like an art project where you utilize his voice.

Being obnoxious on social media:
If I have a fight with somebody, it makes me look like a prick, but it makes the social-media numbers explode. It’s the Kanye West theory: In 2015, become a prick and just get more popular. I don’t want to be thought of like that, but also I just don’t really care. I’m doing jokes and people take it seriously, like that’s the person I am.

Whether Taylor Swift is annoyed with him after he asked fans to start a Kickstarter to get her a booty.
We squashed it! I saw her at the Grammys and she was supernice and cool. Her fans loved the beef, though. That’s all they have — they don’t have, like, real things going on. It’s still startling when these artists pay attention to my Twitter. Like, Ed Sheeran unfollowed me when I said something about Taylor — I can’t believe these people even know who I am.

The ageism Madonna faces?
She created the world we live in. It already ***** to be a woman in the music industry, but to be a boss woman is even harder. She sold out her tour in minutes, but no one seems to want her to succeed — “Madonna, we’ve been there, done that, now we’re about Kim Kardashian.” Her song “Ghosttown” was a guaranteed Number One for anybody else, but she didn’t get a fair shot. With “***** I’m Madonna,” everyone said there’s no way it will go anywhere, but I’m like, “Screw it, it represents you more than anything.”

Check out the full interview here.

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