With Ross Golan.
It's an extremely in-depth interview, but here are a couple of highlights:
• Bonnie cringes when she hears Cheryl Cole's "I Don't Care" because it was originally meant for her.
• "Teenage Dream," which she described as a “nostalgic love song,” had five versions. One of the original lyrics included: “You make me feel like I’m born again / All brand new c’mon Peter Pan."
• On the evolution of pop music and "unlearning" how to write: "I think the sound has changed [in the industry]. Things are looser now. It's more abstract in a lot of ways which I appreciate," adding pop music is "constantly evolving" and that it's the "most challenging" genres of music.
• "TGIF" is "autobiographical." Bonnie says collectively between her and Katy, "most of those things happened."
• Girls aren't encouraged enough in the music biz to produce.
• The dark side of the industry: "[There's] a lot of sexual harassment," she says. "A lot of that. Sad to say... you sort of get used to it and you kind of learn how to read a room and know what time of day is appropriate." She continues, "there are some people that I won't go to night sessions because people are drinking and things get rowdy."
• On working with Britney Spears on Femme Fatale: "When I was working on Femme Fatale, I hadn't had a bunch of hits yet. 'Hold It Against Me' was my third No. 1, and that hadn't even come out yet. I was still in my fighting to make it place. When things started going well for me is when I started wanting to get sober because I wasn't sad anymore."
• Recants moving to L.A. as a signed artist with two million dollars and blowing through it.
• On her big recording contract: "[Dr.] Luke's deals are famously bad. Everybody knows that. He's a brilliant businessman. He's getting his. He gave me my career. I felt it was a bit of the deal with the devil, but most of these deals are... it's just the face changes. It was a necessary deal and I don't regret it at all."
I know in the digital age, devoting an hour to something feels outrageous, but it's worth a listen:
Also, Katy Perry, call Bonnie back. MMKAY?